From VNN: more on 2007 “Ron Paul at racist meetings” story

As I see it, the “Ron Paul at racist meetings story” was the point when Bill White moved beyond annoying the little white racialist groups and began to annoy a wider audience. Consequences would follow.

Below, a slightly edited version of the VNN Forum page where Bill White posted his exclusive Ron Paul story in December, 2007.

As you can see, the idea that “racists” would meet at an Asian restaurant throws the story into question for poster #2. The little green football crowd of today will accept this, though, without blinking… racists being so dumb, and all.

Note: “Joe Snuffy” AKA Kevin Harpham, now serving 32 years on a bomb attempt charge, made post #18.

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Source: http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=63682

December 19th, 2007 #1
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Comrades:

I have kept quiet about the Ron Paul campaign for a while, because I didn’t see any need to say anything that would cause any trouble. However, reading the latest release from his campaign spokesman, I am compelled to tell the truth about Ron Paul’s extensive involvement in white nationalism.

Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia, usually on Wednesdays. This is part of a dinner that was originally organized by Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis and Joe Sobran, and has since been mostly taken over by the Council of Conservative Citizens.

I have attended these dinners, seen Paul and his aides there, and been invited to his offices in Washington to discuss policy.

For his spokesman to call white racialism a “small ideology” and claim white activists are “wasting their money” trying to influence Paul is ridiculous.

Paul is a white nationalist of the Stormfront type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position.

I don’t know that it is necessarily good for Paul to “expose” this. However, he really is someone with extensive ties to white nationalism and for him to deny that in the belief he will be more respectable by denying it is outrageous — and I hate seeing people in the press who denounce racialism merely because they think it is not fashionable.

Bill White, Commander
American National Socialist Workers Party

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December 19th, 2007 #2
Sean Martin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ANSWP Commander
Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia,

Why would a bunch of racists meet at a gook restaurant? Also if Ron Paul is on our side isn’t this thread harming him? There are a lot more anti-racists that would vote against him than racists that would vote for him. People that agree 100% with Ron Paul would vote against him if they thought he was a racist.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php…64&postcount=9
Doppelhaken, Draco, Richard H, ToddinFl, Augustus Sutter, Chain, Subrosa, Jarl, White Will, whose next?

Sean Martin

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December 19th, 2007 #3
Rant Casey
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I don’t believe it Bill. I think you’re telling a lie.

Rant Casey

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December 19th, 2007 #4
David Milano
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What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

David Milano

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December 19th, 2007 #5
White Will
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I don’t know what this tin horn poseur is linking to in this thread where he calls Dr. Ron Paul a liar. ASSWIPE Commander is on my Ignore list and will stay there.

This thread should be featured in the “Chutzpah” subforum. The “commander” is in the top rank of Liars’ Clubs everywhere, just below Harold “Big Lie”
Covington. It takes full blown chutzpah for such a world class prevaricator to call a man like Ron Paul a liar.

I hope this starts a process of serious fence shaking. Some will land on Ron Paul’s side and the rest can run with Honest Bill White & his Workers of the World United on the other. It will be difficult for serious activists to straddle this issue. Those who are identified as followers of Honest Bill White can no longer claim loyalty to Dr. Paul after their so-called commander’s attack of him. Not after this. Not to me, they can’t.

May the best approach prevail.

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December 19th, 2007 #6
White Will
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Doesn’t this asshole have his own forum?

White Will

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December 19th, 2007 #7
McKinley
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Some one ban this piece of shit for the no outing rule.

nothing says lovin’ like a jew in the oven

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“What do you expect? All we got on this team are a bunch a Jews, spics, niggers, pansies — and a booger-eatin’ moron!”

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McKinley

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December 19th, 2007 #8
Mike Riggins
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I know alot of white supremacist involved in the Ron Paul campaign. I wish he would not shun away from his true supporters. I will stick with him till the ened but he shouldn’t act like a typical politiician.

Mike Riggins

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December 19th, 2007 #9
McKinley
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Will, he can’t get enough suckers to go on his forum so he can tell BS about other White people. He has an audience here on vnnf.

nothing says lovin’ like a jew in the oven

Kentckyanna True News

“What do you expect? All we got on this team are a bunch a Jews, spics, niggers, pansies — and a booger-eatin’ moron!”

Tanner Boyle – short stop for the Bad News Bears.

McKinley

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December 19th, 2007 #10
Signe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by McKinley
Some one ban this piece of shit for the no outing rule.

I’m thinking something similar. Just what are you tring to accomplish here Bill?

Signe

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December 19th, 2007 #11
David Milano
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ANSWP Commander
Comrades:

I have kept quiet about the Ron Paul campaign for a while, because I didn’t see any need to say anything that would cause any trouble. However, reading the latest release from his campaign spokesman, I am compelled to tell the truth about Ron Paul’s extensive involvement in white nationalism.

Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia, usually on Wednesdays. This is part of a dinner that was originally organized by Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis and Joe Sobran, and has since been mostly taken over by the Council of Conservative Citizens.

I have attended these dinners, seen Paul and his aides there, and been invited to his offices in Washington to discuss policy.

For his spokesman to call white racialism a “small ideology” and claim white activists are “wasting their money” trying to influence Paul is ridiculous.

Paul is a white nationalist of the Stormfront type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position.

I don’t know that it is necessarily good for Paul to “expose” this. However, he really is someone with extensive ties to white nationalism and for him to deny that in the belief he will be more respectable by denying it is outrageous — and I hate seeing people in the press who denounce racialism merely because they think it is not fashionable.

Bill White, Commander
American National Socialist Workers Party

I agree with McKinley. I hope no one ever shares personal info with him or anyone associated with him.
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December 19th, 2007 #12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Milano
What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?

Good question. I have to agree with White Will, a man who has proven himself as an activist, that this subject of Dr. Paul’s candidacy will separate the wheat from the chaff.
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December 19th, 2007 #13
Frank Toliver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ANSWP Commander
Comrades:

I have kept quiet about the Ron Paul campaign for a while, because I didn’t see any need to say anything that would cause any trouble. However, reading the latest release from his campaign spokesman, I am compelled to tell the truth about Ron Paul’s extensive involvement in white nationalism.

Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia, usually on Wednesdays. This is part of a dinner that was originally organized by Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis and Joe Sobran, and has since been mostly taken over by the Council of Conservative Citizens.

I have attended these dinners, seen Paul and his aides there, and been invited to his offices in Washington to discuss policy.

For his spokesman to call white racialism a “small ideology” and claim white activists are “wasting their money” trying to influence Paul is ridiculous.

Paul is a white nationalist of the Stormfront type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position.

I don’t know that it is necessarily good for Paul to “expose” this. However, he really is someone with extensive ties to white nationalism and for him to deny that in the belief he will be more respectable by denying it is outrageous — and I hate seeing people in the press who denounce racialism merely because they think it is not fashionable.

Bill White, Commander
American National Socialist Workers Party

Even after the shit you pulled on VNN, I thought you might have something to offer. I am proven wrong. You are just a goddamned loose cannon who wants to be in the limelight and you don’t care what you have to do to get there. Why don’t you pack up your shit and leave, and try to incriminate and poison the well against someone other than Ron Paul.
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December 19th, 2007 #14
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You are consistent Bill. On the one hand you do things that appear to help expose the enemies of the white race and then you come out with a post of this sort that may hurt the white race. I know I’m not the only one to see these posts and patterns. Almost as though you’re playing two sides against the middle. Did you really abandon communism? You’re looking more and more like a crypto-Marxist to me.
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December 19th, 2007 #15
White Will
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This motherfucker needs a special bullet.

White Will

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December 19th, 2007 #16
AntonF
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If this is all true, I’m happy to hear this about the guy. I’ll be voting for Ron Paul in January here in Florida in the primary.

AntonF

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December 19th, 2007 #17
David Milano
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Will
This motherfucker needs a special bullet.

I thought you might say something like that after seeing what he posted. This bitch just trolls around the movement for info on what activists are doing so that he can throw a wrench into it. Why he does this, I don’t know.

I reported his post to mods. Remains to be seen what they’ll do.
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December 19th, 2007 #18
Joe Snuffy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Milano
What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?

I would like to hear an answer to this question also.

Joe Snuffy

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December 19th, 2007 #19
Darren
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Bill,
While I find this information interesting and intriguing, I have to join the chorus here in asking how the fuck does this help Ron Paul or white
nationalism?

Ron Paul is the only candidate that comes close to matching our views in the mainstream political debate. I know you don’t like people who only go half-way in their political views, however, half-way is better than nothing at all.

Ron Paul may say things to please the media regarding racism, but he is hardly a hardcore left-wing commie who wants to merge the races into a gray goo.

Please get a sense of proportion here.

If Ron Paul is hurt by this information, you have done those of us trying to effect meaningful political change a big disservice.

I like the ANSWP and the leadership you have given it, but we have to be realistic when it comes to making big political changes. Ron Paul is our first step. Please don’t ruin it!

As you can see from this copy of the page from VNN where Bill White posted the the original story, not only did the white nationalist there support Ron Paul, and they attacked ANSWP Commander Bill White. Bill White was, in fact, eventually banned from posting on this site, as the word “banned” under his name shows.

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December 19th, 2007 #20
Darren
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Originally Posted by Joe Snuffy
I would like to hear an answer to this question also.

Unfortunately, I think this is one of the times where Commander White shoots off his mouth without thinking about the big picture.

I really do not think he means bad by posting this; he just has a dislike of people who do not come fully out with their racial views.

Darren

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2007 Bill White Story about Ron Paul Resurfaces

I was kind of waiting for this 2007 story to come up now in the Ron Paul media coverage. But, it’s only on little green footballs, a site that has no respect for Bill White or any of his reporting except for this one story on Ron Paul.

I have asked Bill White about this “Ron Paul at the racist meeting in the Asian restaurant story” and he told met that he wrote it because it was true. (He explained more, but I have to dig it up.)

My opinion of Ron Paul is that he is a sleeper agent for the rainbow side, not the white side. How else could he go along in Washington, DC politics all these years and be anything but that? I’d like to see his “Texas” home territory, I figure it probably has more “Holocaust survivors” and plain old Jews in it than any other part of the state.

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Stormfront Founder Says White Supremacists Thought Ron Paul Was ‘One of Us’
There’s a reason why Ron Paul is the favorite politician of the racist subculture
Charles Johnson
Wingnuts • Thu Dec 29, 2011 at 10:54 am PST • Views: 19,029
Don Black, head racist of the hate site Stormfront, makes it clear that for many years Ron Paul appealed directly to the white supremacist subculture: Stormfront Founder Don Black Says White Supremacists Thought Ron Paul Was ‘One of Us’.

Ron Paul posing with Don & Derek Black at the 2007 Values Voter debateRon Paul was a hot topic this week on the talk radio show hosted by prominent white supremacist Don Black and his son Derek. Mr. Black said he received Mr. Paul’s controversial newsletters when they were first published about two decades ago and described how the publications were perceived by members of the white supremacist movement.

“Everybody, all of us back in the 80′s and 90′s, felt Ron Paul was, you know, unusual in that he had actually been a Congressman, that he was one of us and now, of course, that he has this broad demographic–broad base of support,” Mr. Black said on his broadcast yesterday.

And of course, who would know better than a member of the American Nazi Party how important it is to keep one’s true beliefs hidden?

Mr. Black said he understood why Mr. Paul would want to distance himself from the newsletters.

“It was written in the first person frequently and, you know, a normal person would have thought that Ron Paul must have written this, or at least whoever wrote it must have did so with the approval of Ron Paul, but things change,” Mr. Black said. “So, now that he has this new base of support of course, he’s having–frantically trying to disavow himself from the newsletters, and I agree the newsletters were a little over the top.”

Get that? A former Klansman and overt neo-Nazi says Ron Paul’s language back in the bad old days was “over the top.”

What he really means: “a little too revealing.”

Also calling in to Black’s hate radio show this week to sing the praises of Ron Paul: white supremacist superstar David Duke.

Former KKK Grand Wizard and Louisiana Congressman David Duke, who was something of a mentor to Mr. Black during their days in the Klan, called in to discuss Mr. Paul. Though he said he wasn’t ready to make an official endorsement, Mr. Duke explained why he’ll be voting for Mr. Paul.

“Again, I go back to that, you know, traditional topic that I always talk about, you know, the powers of international Zionism–a power in banking, a power in media, a power in government influence, in campaign finance–a power that’s, you know, hurting the values of this country on behalf of Israel,” Mr. Duke said. “So, I would vote for Ron Paul at this moment because he’s one of the few candidates who have policies in this regard and this realm that I wholeheartedly support, and that’s why I’d vote for him.”

It should be noted that there are also allegations by another neo-Nazi, Bill White (a personal friend of right wing blogger Robert Stacy McCain), that Ron Paul went far beyond simply expressing views with which white supremacists could agree. In 2007 White posted the following comment at Vanguard News Network:

Comrades:

I have kept quiet about the Ron Paul campaign for a while, because I didn’t see any need to say anything that would cause any trouble. However, reading the latest release from his campaign spokesman, I am compelled to tell the truth about Ron Paul’s extensive involvement in white nationalism.

Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia, usually on Wednesdays. This is part of a dinner that was originally organized by Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis and Joe Sobran, and has since been mostly taken over by the Council of Conservative Citizens.

I have attended these dinners, seen Paul and his aides there, and been invited to his offices in Washington to discuss policy.

For his spokesman to call white racialism a “small ideology” and claim white activists are “wasting their money” trying to influence Paul is ridiculous. Paul is a white nationalist of the Stormfront type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position.

I don’t know that it is necessarily good for Paul to “expose” this. However, he really is someone with extensive ties to white nationalism and for him to deny that in the belief he will be more respectable by denying it is outrageous — and I hate seeing people in the press who denounce racialism merely because they think it is not fashionable.

Bill White, Commander
American National Socialist Workers Party

I have history with Mr. White myself; he directly threatened my life in 2008, and tried to find my home address and the addresses of my family members.

(h/t: Randall Gross.)

Link: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/39684_Stormfront_Founder_Says_White_Supremacists_Thought_Ron

Jesse Trentadue denies AFP’s “Eric Holder supplied bombs to McVeigh” story

Updated on 1/01/12 – The latest email version of American Free Press reviews the Eric Holder connection to the OKC sting operation and the cover up.

See my post at:
http://billwhitetrial.wordpress.com/2012/01/01/afp-clarifies-the-eric-holder-gave-bombs-to-mcveigh-story/

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ORIGINAL POST

The bombshell story that Holder did supply bombs to McVeigh WAS in the issue of AFP that I received this a.m. in my mailbox. But the page was missing when I clicked the link.

Jesse Trentadue denies the story:

I wish it were true, but it is not. I agree with REDACTED, it was probably written out of context. I have no inkling who the author is nor any idea as to his credibility. It was probably cobbled from web information. There is so much out there, icluding my brother Kenney being John Doe 2 and murdered because of it. – Jesse Trentadue

Hey, I thought that story about Kenney was true!

Cobbled from web information for the purpose of… disinformation? It looks that way.

Bill White, I hope that wasn’t your article.

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ARTICLE – American Free Press: “Attorney General Holder Tied to OKC Bombers

Eric Holder, current attorney general of the United States, managed an FBI operation that provided explosives to Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols just prior to the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995, according to official documents released during the ongoing investigation into government foreknowledge of the supposed terrorist attack.

According to the documentation provided in the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit brought against the Department of Justice by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue, the Oklahoma City bombing had aspects of being an FBI sting operation that went out of control. Holder had authorized the FBI to provide explosives to Nichols and McVeigh, then lost track of both the explosives and their targets. McVeigh went on to detonate some of the explosives outside the federal building, an act that was designed to help anti-terrorism legislation pass Congress. But an additional case of explosives was unaccounted for.

After the bombing, when the FBI learned the location of the explosives, Holder reportedly sent emails to FBI agents ordering them to recover the explosives before they could be found by some other branch of the government. FBI agents failed to spot the additional, unexploded explosives during an initial search of Nichols’s home and offered to spare him the death penalty if he would help them recover them.

The case of explosives was, however, recovered by another law enforcement agency and was later determined to have the incriminating fingerprints of two FBI agents, as well as fingerprints of McVeigh and Nichols.

Shortly after the bombing, Kenneth Trentadue, a government informant, was murdered in his prison cell. His family has been pursuing legal action against the federal government ever since.

In 2001, in a bid to avoid a full release of documents, the Federal Bureau of Prisons paid a settlement of $1.1 million to several members of Trentadue’s family, but his brother refused to drop the investigation and filed a FOIA lawsuit for the missing documents. That suit has been ongoing in the Salt Lake City federal courthouse.

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From a site called Sipsey Street Irregulars, who rate the story disinformation:

Monday, December 19, 2011″Attorney General Holder Tied to OKC Bombers.” Or, not.
Source: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/12/eric-holders-cover-up-history.html

A lot of you have sent me this link from American Free Press: “Attorney General Holder Tied to OKC Bombers.”

Huh? More than a bit perplexed, I sent out this email to Jesse Trentadue and another man well familiar with the case and the documents:

OK, I haven’t seen this in the PATCON material. What am I missing?

I heard back first from the expert:

Mike — I don’t think this is based on PATCON documents at all… pretty sure its’ about Roger Moore and FOIA documents Jesse got relative to the 2005 find of explosives cache in Terry Nichols crawl space of his former home in Herington KS… there may be a PATCON connection, but it’s not documented (yet). Jesse might have different view, but I don’t think so.

Not long after, Jesse Trentadue replied:

I wish it were true, but it is not. I agree with REDACTED, it was probably written out of context. I have no inkling who the author is nor any idea as to his credibility. It was probably cobbled from web information. There is so much out there, including my brother Kenney being John Doe 2 and murdered because of it.

I am working with all of these documents, both those that are strictly PATCON as well as the Trentadue OKC discovery material, which overlap. If none of us know the source of this story, which cites Jesse’s FOIA search, then I’m prepared to label it disinformation. The Internet is a tricky place. Caveat lector.
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National Socialist Workers / ANSWP flyers, four examples

Anti-Zionist Cartoon

The ADL, America’s Greatest Enemy

NuShawn Williams

Diversity, Is It Really Our Strength?

These flyers sent in by Neal Joitke – JimCrow88@yahoo.com

Click the “ANSWP” link in the column on the right for more on ANSWP.
http://billwhitetrial.wordpress.com/answp/

Note: Sorry for the huge size of the flyers; they appeared to upload at a good viewing size. I’ll have to figure out how to scale them down. – americafarm